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Monthly Archives: November 2007

Greg Willits runs a marathon, Beowulf the Movie

November 28, 2007 in ANSWERING COMMENTS, MOVIES, PODCASTS, THE SIMPSONS NEWS

THE SIMPSONS NEWS
Wow, talk about stress. I woke up on Monday morning stressed out. I had a very fun, relaxing Thanksgiving weekend but the day I went to work, it was instant stress. I woke up with a headache and a neck ache and it hasn’t gone away in four days. I guess I have to get used to the whole quota thing again. Quotas haven’t been really scrutinized for years now so getting back to that mind set might take some more getting used to.

The good news is that the show I’m working on is really funny. It’s really good. It’s a Homer centric episode and he ends up teaming up with an unexpected character. It also has a goofy Marge subplot. It’s a lot of fun to work on. I just need to meet my scene quota.

MOVIES
So my brother, his wife Deborah, my wife, her best friend, and I went to see Beowulf this weekend. Overall I enjoyed the movie. Visually, it was fantastic. It didn’t quite follow the story it was based on very accurately and I’m sure there are a lot of English teachers out there having fits about that. I read Beowulf a while back and it’s funny how much of the language of this story J.R.R. Tolkien lifted from when he wrote The Silmarillion and The Lord of the Rings. I got a kick out of that. According to www.kirjasto.sci.fi/tolkien.htm:

“His scholarly works included studies on Chaucher (1934) and an edition of Beowulf (1937) .”

The movie on the other hand, didn’t have that kind of language although there was some old English spoken by some characters, which I found really interesting. The changes to the story where a little odd but if you don’t take a purist point of view, you can get a little out of it. One of my favorite writers Neil Gaiman, co-wrote the movie. I found it interesting that the movie dealt so much with sin. I liked the idea the movie seemed to present, that personal sin effected not just the individual but the community as well. I also thought it was interesting how the pagan “heroes” of the story seemed to be annoyed by Christianity and would always dismiss it as something bad. They would grumble that after Christianity there were no more “heroes” in the world. Then they would turn around and sin so horribly that it would become a literal monster and effect the lives of many, many people. This would cause them to have to confront and take care of the problems they created at great personal cost but even after they did so, the problems wouldn’t completely go away. I got the feeling that, since they kept rejecting Christianity, they would have to keep fighting the monsters that they created because they would never go away. This is probably why they needed “heroes” and the Christians didn’t. I’m sure the writers didn’t intend that meaning to the story but that’s what I got out of it.

One of the biggest problems I found in the movie was that lack of animation in the character’s faces. They often looked like dolls. It took a lot of work on my part to suspend my disbelief that these characters were “real”. Occasionally they looked good but mostly they didn’t. In the The Lord of the Rings movie, Gollum was a computer generated (C.G.) character, just like all the characters in Beowulf. Theoretically they used the same techniques to make the characters in Beowulf as they used to make Gollum, namely “Motion Capture” (MoCap). Yet Gollum was so much more believably “alive” than the characters in Beowulf. Why?

If you watch “making of” documentaries of Lord of the Rings, you get the impression that the actor, Andy Serkis, who did the MoCap acting and the voice of Gollum did all the work. What you don’t know is that for every moment of real deep acting that Andy Serkis did, there was an animator re-interpreting the acting so that it would work as animation. This is why it looked real. A human being did what a computer could not. Capture the essence of Andy Serkis‘ acting and retranslated it so that it felt real on the Gollum C.G. model. An animator is like a motion caricaturist. A caricaturist looks at a person and exaggerates the physical features that makes a person look like themselves. They capture the essence of the person. An animator does the same thing but through motion. They are actors with computers. I think that the characters in Beowulf didn’t look right because either the animators that they used to interpret the acting weren’t good, the director of animation wasn’t very good about pushing the acting, the director of the movie didn’t understand how to direct the animators, or they didn’t use enough animators and thought the computer would do all the work. In any case, the animation on the humans was the biggest flaw of the movie. I think movies like this will really work great the moment people realize it’s the animators, not the computers that makes believable acting. I still think it’s worth watching. Just be warned, there is a lot of nudity in the movie. Beowulf butt cheeks anyone?

Gollum had really good animation acting in Lord of the Rings

Yoda, in the latest two Star Wars movies, was fully animated. They didn’t MoCap his acting at all. His acting was really good.

“Final Fantasy: Advent Children” had the same stiff MoCap acting problems as Beowulf. Great visual movie though.


Animatrix’s
“Final flight of the Osiris” also had stiff MoCap acting.

PODCASTS

I listened to Rosary Army #194 this week. It was really great. Greg Willits ran a marathon this Thanksgiving. The Rosary Army podcast follows the adventure of Greg’s marathon, mostly through Jennifer Willits’ eyes. It’s a very emotional recording. It got me all choked up. I loved it. If you haven’t listened to it then I recommend you do. Afterwards I recommend you watch the video that Fr. Roderick taped of the event. It’s a lot of fun.

CONGRATS GREG!

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ANSWERING COMMENTS
Tao responded to my post last week. He said he had an article similar to mine on his blog. I looked it up and I thought it was great. It’s called, “Why Play Board Games?” I recommend it. Check it out. While your at it check out the one called “From the Classics to Modern Board Games” as well.

Thank you for letting me know about you article Tao!

 

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Comparing the pros and cons of Video games and Board games

November 22, 2007 in BOARD GAMES, THE SIMPSONS NEWS, VIDEO GAMES

THE SIMPSONS NEWS

Well, I’m back on Lance’s show. I got quite a few scenes and I even managed to meet my layout quota by Friday. I’m very glad that this week we only have a three day week. WOO HOO! Happy Thanksgiving! Act I of Lance’s show is pain because it has a riot in it (a riot on a Simpsons show? What a surprise! NOT!). Luckily he managed to split up the scenes of the riot to different artists so no one person ended up with the whole thing. It really makes life easier on us that way.

Lately, they been cracking down on scene quotas around here. We have more artists on the show than we really need. This means that only the artists that can produce the right amount of work will be kept. Production is really looking around to get rid of some of us. I really need to start making sure I meet quota.

VIDEO GAMES/BOARD GAMES

I’ve been thinking about the pros and cons of board games and video games in relation to each other. Though I enjoy playing them both, I’ve discovered that I like board games more lately.

If you were to come over to my house and looked at my video game collection, you would probably say, “Wow, you have a lot of video games.” I do. When I was single, I had a little extra money on hand to buy video games and I had the time to play them. Not anymore.

Now I have to be wise as to how I spend the money so I could make sure to have enough for bills, necessities and emergencies. This means that I don’t have the cash to be spending on video games or video game systems. Also, the free time I get, I try to spend with my wife and baby girl so I don’t spend any time playing video games the way I used to.

Interactivity

Now that I’m married, I’ve come to realize that video games tend to be mostly solitary games that often times tend to be exclusive. Even if your playing a multiplayer game against someone on the internet, they still tend to be, you alone in a room against someone else who is also alone in a room.

My one year old daughter checkmates me in two moves. Shoulda played Halo instead.

Still, I really like video games. I’ve been dying to play games like BioShock and Halo 3. Those games sound so awesome I can’t stand it! Thing is, I haven’t got the money for an Xbox 360 nor do I have the time to play the games even if I did (well, maybe I could play Halo 3 with my wife, ’cause she likes the Halo games and they are cooperative).

This is one of the reasons I’ve been playing board games more. With board games I can spend time with my wife and family while playing a game.

It’s not that video games can’t be played with or against someone in the same room as you. You can and it’s great to play that way. I’ve spent many hours playing Super Puzzle Fighter II Turbo, Baldur’s Gate, Champions of Norrath, and Halo 1 and 2 with my wife and we’ve had a great time with them.

The problem I’ve found with video games is that even when your playing along side someone, there is still a level of detachment from the person you are playing with because your sitting next to them and watching a screen and not sitting across from them and looking at them.

Board games tend to provide that extra level of interactivity with the person I’m playing with that I never realized I was missing. Now a days the board games coming out are so good that they give some video games a run for their money as far as game mechanics are concerned. And of course no video game can get you as immersed into a game and give you all the freedom you could ever want as well as a tabletop role-playing game.

Still…a game like BioShock or The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion can come pretty close.

Immersive Factor

Best thing about video games is that you can play them alone and have a great time. Something that is really difficult to do with a board game. Also, they are often times, instantly immersive, creative and they are great for problem solving and getting you to think (my all time favorite game, Civilization II, has all these qualities.

Ironically, this game was based on a board game. Who knew?

Barrier to Entry

On the other hand, video games have a difficult point of entry. You have to buy an expensive system or computer to be able to play them, and then, if you’re new to video gaming, you have to learn to use the controllers (something that the Nintedo Wii has been trying to fix with quite of bit of success).

Some people find it impossible to get the hand, eye coordination required to play some of the more popular games and therefore don’t find video gaming to be fun at all. Not to mention that some people get motion sickness from some video games.

For years I tried to get my family to play video games with me and, for the most part, have failed. Not so with board games.

A board game has a real easy point of entry. All you have to do is buy the game, read the rules and your ready to go. No electricity necessary.

Only thing is, that some board games are a little more complicated then others. This means that some people might have a harder time understanding some games than others.

Their brain just doesn’t work that way. So even board games have some problems as well and yet the social aspect of board games is hard to beat. Something not even playing an Massively Multiplayer Online Role-playing Game (MMORPG) can do.

Longevity

As time goes on I’ve become painfully aware of something. As I’ve stated above, I own quite a few video games. Thing is, the game systems that run them are becoming obsolete. This means that in a few years, I might not be able to play them anymore.

I like the games I bought. I think they hold up even thought the graphics aren’t as good as they are now. I still think they are fun to play but if my Playstation, Nintendo, or Xbox doesn’t work anymore, how am I to play them?

Some game systems are backwards compatible and some are partially backwards compatible but how long will they be made that way? Eventually, a system will stop being compatible with my games.

Does this mean I have to re-buy my games? Will I always have to hunt down old systems if mine no longer work? That stinks.

Board games don’t have this problem, (the game “Go” was mentioned by Confucius in his “Analects” around 511-479 BC and yet you can still play it. It doesn’t require a “game system”) although they do have their own.

Some board games go out of print. This means that if you don’t buy a board game right away you run the risk of it disappearing. This means if you want to play it, you might end up buying it on e-bay for double the price.

Then there are the games that have a limited runs and then they’re gone. Sometimes they are good enough to get a re-release (Case in point: Through the Ages: A Story of Civilization and Ra) but that’s no guaranty (Case in point: Dune the board game).

Is One Better?

I’m not saying one is better than the other (although it sure does sound like it, doesn’t it?). I like playing games, period.

Right now I’m into board gaming because it fits my needs better. Although sometimes I wish I could play the latest and greatest video game out, I think that my time is better spent in important things like spending time with my family.

Board games allow me to do both. Maybe someday board games and video games might become one. We’ll have video tables were we move physical pieces around on a digital board that can read what you are doing and we’ll have the best (and worst) of both worlds.

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Storyboard problems, computer problems, Dune the Board game.

November 16, 2007 in BOARD GAMES, BOOKS, MOVIES, MY WEEK, THE SIMPSONS NEWS

THE SIMPSONS NEWS

Well, so much for having fun storyboarding. I finished working on storyboard revisions on one show and I got put on storyboard revisions on another show. Problem is that all the fun stuff has been done already and all I get to do is the grunt work. The shots have been figured out already by the director and he just gives me a bunch of roughs to clean up. This means I, first have to interpret the roughs and second, I have to draw them pretty clean. Problem is that the show is so behind that everything is do yesterday. This means that what ever I get, I have to do as fast as possible and under a ton of pressure. Not only that, but some of the shots I have to “board” are already in layout. This means that the work I’m doing doesn’t have any practical use. The layout artists are working off the rough version of the shots that I’m trying to clean up for the “board”. This does nothing but frustrate me because the director is just as picky over the storyboard shots that are not going to be used by anyone as he is with the ones that are. Why? Because apparently there is one producer left on the show that is not on strike and we have to make the “boards” on the show perfect so he doesn’t make too many changes to it. It’s so impractical. It just feels like a waste of my time to me.

I was put on the show last Thursday and it seems that ever since then, the moment I come to work I get an instant headache. This stinks. I was suppose to start on Lance’s show on Monday and I haven’t which means that I’m going to be behind on all the things he gives me from the very beginning.

MY WEEK

My laptop is just not connecting to the internet anymore and don’t know why. It’s really frustrating. First the wireless router started acting up so we just unplugged it and after I did that and I connected the computer to the land line, it just wouldn’t load the internet pages. It gets the signal but it just won’t load. Has this ever happened to you? If it has, how did you fix it? I tried uninstalling the router program but it’s not even in the computer. I don’t know what to do.

BOARD GAMES

So instead of telling you that I played three games this weekend (Bohnanza, San Juan, and Vegas Showdown), I thought I’d write about how I made my own. No, I didn’t design a game, I just put it together from a pdf I downloaded. The game is Dune, the board game.

If your a fan of Frank Herbert’s Dune books, this is a must have. I’ve been wanting to play this game for a long time. This game plays up to six player and each person plays one faction from the Dune books, The Fremen, the Harkonnen, the Atreides, the Guild, the Bene Gesserit, or the Emperor . The best part is each faction has a bunch of special “powers” that thematically go with the faction and the essence of the books. It’s so cool! There is just too many interesting things about this game to write here. If you want to read more about it, click here.

This game has been out of print for years and it has the reputation of being one of the best games ever. It’s ranked #45 on board game geek. If you were to try to buy in on e-bay it would cost you over a hundred dollars. Fantasy Flight has bought the rights to use the game system but were unable to get the rights to use the Dune License so they’re going to use a different Sci Fi theme. It just won’t be the same.

 

After having printed out and played the Pocket Civ game, I thought to myself that it would be pretty easy to print out and make another game. Since I felt like doing it again, I needed a game worth making. I’d downloaded the Dune game about a year or two ago and I thought that maybe it was the right time to put it together. So I began trying to figure out how I was going to go about doing it. I had card stock so that wasn’t going to be a big deal. So first I started printing out the cards, the problem was that the cards also had backs to them. When I turned the paper around and printed on the back of the already printed image in order to give the cards a back, I found to my dismay that they didn’t line up. So I thought the only way to do it would be to print the front and back on two different pieces of card stock and glue them together later. I also had lamination paper and after I printed out all the components I started to laminate everything. Once I did that I went to the craft store and bought some glue spray. I then went to the local copy store to use the paper cutter they had there. I was there for about two hours cutting out the cards for the game as well as the actual game board. I put the cards together using the spray on glue and they looked really great. They actually don’t even looked hand made. Next I went home and cut out the rest of the components with some scissors. In all, it took me about five to six hours and I still wasn’t able to finish that day. The next day at work, I used my exacto knife to cut some slits in the “shield wall” pieces and I also finished putting together the “Combat Wheels” of the game with some help from my light table at work. Now all I have to do is go back to the craft store to look for some components that I might be able to use for the armies and the “spice tokens” and the game is ready to play. It was fun to do but it was an quite a lot of work. Can’t wait to play it.

Making the Dune board game while dreaming of riding a sandworm

BOOKS/MOVIES

I’ve noticed something. Some of the most influential Science fiction/fantasy books and movies all seem to have a world religion “foundation” to them. For example:

Star Wars, is kinda Buddhist.
Dune, is kinda Muslim.
The Matrix, is sorta Gnostic.
The Lord of the Rings, is very, very, Catholic (it’s Christian but it’s specifically Catholic).

I understand that all religions may seem the same on the surface and therefore people (like Joseph Campbell) have put forth the proposition that they are. Though I disagree with Campbell’s proposition I think he’s right in that these stories do to hit a “mythic” core in us. I heard somewhere that Tolkien thought myths were very similar because it was a way for humanity to recognize Jesus as the Savior even if you’re culture didn’t have a bible because it was written in everyones psyche. (Can you tell I’m Christian?) I find this interesting non the less. I wonder if the next big sci fi/fantasy book/movie will be Hindu or Jewish. Unless there’s already one and I don’t know it.

I proposed this idea to some friends at lunch and they pointed out that Star Trek and Blade Runner don’t fall under this world religion foundation view, though they do have a philosophical ideological foundation. For example:

Star Trek is a bit secular humanistic.
Blade Runner is…well…huh…I guess it’s just asking a bit fat question, so I guess it would be Socratic?

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Playing too much, sleeping too little

November 8, 2007 in ANSWERING COMMENTS, BOARD GAMES, MY WEEK, THE SIMPSONS NEWS

THE SIMPSONS NEWS
So much for not working the rest of the week last week. I got put on storyboard revisions. I really don’t mind because I really want to do storyboards. It’s really fun for me. When I “board” I feel like I’m contributing to the creative process of the show, more so then when I’m doing layout. As a storyboard artist I get to come up with the first pass of what the show will actually look like by fleshing out the script into visual form. I take the first shot at making the gags work and I also get the first pass at coming up with new characters, props, and backgrounds. It’s really creative. Something that is sometimes lacking when I do layout. I’m having a lot of fun this week, Yay! Even though, doing storyboard revisions is just fixing shots that have been slightly changed. It’s still fun.

BOARDGAMES
Got to play board games this week again, woo HOO! My sister-in-law Deborah made us a yummy dinner at her apartment, while the Munchkin ran around and crawled all over me, not letting me eat. We talked for a while and had a good time, then we broke out a board game and started playing it. The game we played was The Settlers of Catan, which my brother had been wanting to play for a long time. It’s a really fun game and if you want an introduction to the new style of “designer” (designer’s name is on the box) board games, this is the game to get. I can’t recommend this game enough. It’s very a interactive game about building settlements and trading resources with the people around the table. Not only that, but it has a modular board which means that the board layout is different every time you play. The game plays in about an hour, maybe more, depending on how long people take to do their turn. Our game lasted about an hour and a half (I think maybe even two) because my brother kept taking so long to decide what to do in his turn. We had a really good time.

I also found out about a “Print and Play” civilizations game. I went to the site and downloaded the rules and the pdf of the cards you need to use to play. I then printed the rules and for the cards I printed them in card stock. Later, I cut the cards out with a paper cutter. I tried it out the next day. I drew a continent, broke it up into eight regions, put mountains in some and forests in others and began to play. It turned out to be a really fun game. It’s amazing. All you need is paper, pencil, rules and the cards, yet, the games is really fun and really deep. I recommend it. Best part of all, IT’S FREE! WOO HOO! If you like “Civ” games and you want to have a portable one, this one is a good one to have.

Tired after playing The Settlers of Catan

MY WEEK
Since we played the board game this weekend on a Sunday night, we got home around ten thirty. Usually we go to sleep around then because we wake up really early. It wouldn’t have been that big a deal except that my wife still had some work to do for her job the next day. I felt bad that she still needed to work so I stayed up with her in order to keep her company. I didn’t want to be asleep while she stayed awake. We both would have to wake up at four the next morning and I thought it would be unfair. She managed to finish her work at twelve thirty and we went to sleep then.

Four hours of sleep is just not enough. The next day was a nightmare. We were sooo tired all day. I’ve got to remember to make sure my wife has everything done before we do anything from now on. We felt terrible all of Monday. Driving was horrible and work was almost impossible. I’m very surprised I got as much done as I did. In any case, we got home that night and the only thing we wanted to do was go to sleep. We managed to crawl into be at nine o’clock even though I really meant to get into be at eight that night. Sweet, sweet sleep.

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Going to Confession

November 1, 2007 in ANSWERING COMMENTS, BOARD GAMES, CATHOLICISM, THE SIMPSONS NEWS

THE SIMPSONS NEWS

 

Good news and bad news.

 

 

The good news is that we’re all done drawing the scenes for show eight. The only thing left to do is it “time” the scenes in exposure sheets and send them off to Korea so that it can get “in-betweened”, “cleaned up”, and colored. So we’re very happy about that. Now I’ve found myself in the fortunate position of having nothing to do. No other shows needs help so I actually get to sit around and read, write, play on my computer, play on my gameboy, or generally goof around for the next couple of days. Next week I’ll be working on Lance’s new show, show sixteen. The “animatic” (first pencil test version of the show) for that show is due the week before Christmas. So we’ve got a bit of time.

 

 

The bad news is that the Hollywood writer’s strike begins today. Depending how long it takes to be resolved, we might not have any work. If the strike continues till the end of the year, then our “animatic” deadline is pretty much pointless since we do the “animatic” for them to be able to rewrite anything that isn’t working on the show before we finalize it. There really won’t be anywhere for an artist to go since all the studios will be effected. Many writers in the industry won’t be very effected by the strike since they receive residuals from shows they’ve written. We artists, on the other hand, don’t. I’ve got mortgage payments and bills to pay. We had to buy a new car recently because of the car accident my wife had four weeks ago and we pretty much tapped a lot of our emergency money for that. All the paychecks I get every week pretty much go straight to the bills. We don’t really get to save much of anything, so the strike is really going to be scary for us. Especially since we have a baby on the way. What if the strike lasts until our baby is born?

 

 

Lets hope everyone’s greed gets sated quickly.

 

 

BOARD GAMES

 

I can’t believe I got to play board games again this week. This is the third week in a row. I’m sooo happy, yay! My brother and his wife came over and we played three boardgames. I’m in the process of trying to play all the games I have that I haven’t been able to. I have a few games that I’ve had for a year or so that I haven’t been able to play yet. Well, three of those games we managed to play this weekend so that means I have nine left to play.

 

 

The first game we played was Loot. Loot is a pirate card game that’s designed by Reiner Knizia. It’s about trying to collect as many valuable merchant ship cards as you can by attacking them with your pirate ship cards. It’s a fun short game. It takes about twenty minutes to play. Everyone liked playing it. It really forces the player to think ahead and make tough decisions. My brother’s wife Deborah won the game.

 

 

The second game we played was The Bridges of Shangri-La, which is a game about taking over cities with students that get trained in opposing cities. It’s really fun and really cut throat. My wife doesn’t like cut throat games so she didn’t like it much but my brother, Deborah and I liked it. I think it’s a great game. It really requires you to think a lot. Lots of keeping tabs on what everyone else is doing in order to protect yourself while you plan to do your moves. Deborah won that game also.

 

 

The third game we were going to play was Tichu but my wife wasn’t feeling well so she had to sit out. Since we needed four people to play Tichu because it requires you to have two teams of two people, we decided to play China instead. China is a game where you collect points by putting villages and ambassadors in ancient Chinese provinces. It’s a very deep game for a game that seems so simple. It isn’t very cut throat and it’s very family friendly but like I said, it’s very deep. My brother didn’t like that you didn’t get tons of points quickly like in the board game Ticket to Ride. I don’t think he understood much of the depth in the game. Maybe if he plays it again he’ll understand it better. In any case, Deborah won that game also. We were all big losers that day. Deborah apparently is just as wiz at grasping board game strategies really quickly. Who knew.

 

 

CATHOLICISM

 

Happy Feast of all Saints.

 

Confession and psychology

 

So I went to Confession (a.k.a Sacrament of Reconciliation, Sacrament of penance) this week. I really don’t like going to Confession. Not because it’s such a horrible Sacrament or anything but because it forces me to own up to the bad things I’ve done. It bursts my “I’m a good person” bubble and shows me, I could do better. Everyone could do better. Mother Teresa of Calcutta went to Confession daily?…Weekly? I forgot, but she went often. I usually try to go once a month, just to keep my actions in check and to get the Grace for going to Confession. I’ve fallen way short of this. It had been about four months since I did it last and I felt it. For me, not going at least once a month is like not taking a shower for two or three weeks. It just makes me feel a bit grimy. Still, it took a huge effort for me to get off my butt and go. I just don’t like doing it. It hurts my pride. I’ve realized that the more prideful I am, the harder it is for me to go. The humbler I am, the easier (in theory. I haven’t had a easy time yet. I guess I’ve yet to be so humble). Of course, once it’s done and over with, it’s like the weight of the world lifts off me and I’m so full of joy I’m about ready to explode.

 

 

I once heard somewhere that Confession is like the direct opposite of sinning. When you sin, you tend to want to do it, you feel good doing it, and you feel bad after. Confession, on the other hand, you don’t want to do it, you feel bad doing it, and you feel awesome after. I’d much rather go to Confession.

 

St. Francis of Assisi helping me to get to Confession

 

 

 

 

 

PODCASTS
Speaking of Confession. Rosary Army has a great “That Catholic Show” episode on it. For those of you who don’t know what “That Catholic Show” is, it’s a little five minute or so, web video show explaining Catholicism in a very goofy and entertaining way. It’s a great show, check it out.

 

 

ANSWERING COMMENTS

 

So, finally we get someone responding to the “traditional” Catholics in the comments section. I’m going to quote the things he directly wrote to me about but if you want to see the rest of what he wrote, go to the comments section of What in the world is a “traditional Catholic”?. He wrote to me correcting me in some things. str1977 wrote:

Mel Gibson is affiliated with the “Society of Saint Peter”, a group that didn’t join the SSPX when the broke from Rome (or broke with them when broke from Rome).

The issue can never be about more or less dogmatic (unless it is liberally used as an insult). The SSPX complains that Vaticanum II and later developments has compromised earlier teachings. The anti-dogmatist is still dogmatic when he expounded that there shall be no dogma.

The SSPX by the way dispute that the events of 1988 constitute a schism and therefore claim to be loyal and subject to the Holy See. They certainly do not dispute that Benedict XVI is the Pope. Some traditionalists however do, either claiming that the Holy See is vacant or that someone else (usually the leader of their sect) is Pope.

 

 

 

 

Hi, str1977

 

Thank you for correcting me, I appreciate any feed back on things I write that may not be correct. Can you do me a favor and write down the source of your information about Mel Gibson belonging to the Fraternity of St. Peter? Obviously if I had done the same with my information I wouldn’t have made my mistake.

 

 

Also, forgive me if my “less or more dogmatic” comment seemed like an insult to you. I didn’t mean my statement as an insult. I have a tendency to exaggerate to get my points across quicker (maybe you’ve noticed this from looking at the cartoons on the site). In this case, I was using the cultural bias against the word dogma to make my point quickly. I know that perhaps there are a lot of people reading this blog that might view Catholics who are trying to be faithful to all the doctrines and dogmas of the Church in a negative light. Some of these people might perceive faithful Catholics as brainwashed intolerant hypocrites. And yet, what happens when you show them a group of people who think these same faithful Catholics are brainwashed, over tolerant, hippies? I just thought, perhaps incorrectly, that I might be able to present this information in words they might be able to grasp quickly, even though the statement would be inaccurate.

 

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